[whited44]

Hello everyone.  I was polishing some wheels today on my coach and I need a new front wheel.  There are 2 different wheels on this I assume from a blow out or something.  I want to replace the 4 hole wheel with another 10 hole wheel.  Does anyone have the part number??  Newell wants 2k. Figured if I could get the part number I could order it from an Alcoa dealer. Thanks it’s a 22.5”

[johnkosir]

My inside duals are alcoa's are yours

[cwl1979]

Depends on if you need 8.25 wheels, or if you've got 9 inch.

for the 8.25 Alcoa part number is 88U57

for the 9 inch its 89U641

Both part numbers are polished outside for steer use about 450 each

[whited44]

Depends on if you need 8.25 wheels, or if you've got 9 inch.

for the 8.25 Alcoa part number is 88U57

for the 9 inch its  89U641

Both part numbers are polished outside for steer use about 450 each

Hey Carl. Thanks it’s did they use both widths in 1997??

[Richard]

Are we talking the front or drive/tag wheels?

What size tire are you running on the front? The pic looks like 315s. That will determine the wheel width you need.

Also, it’s hard to tell with the lug nut covers on if the wheel is hub centered or stud centered. Those are two different wheels. The pic of the front looks like stud centered.

Here is why this may need a little more research before you order a rim. I think that coach would have come from the factory with 24.5 stud centered rims. But what is showing on the front is a 22.5 hub centered rim with 315 tires. The wheel studs had to be replaced to go from stud centered to hub centered.

But who knows? No two Newells are alike. Steve Magown had a 97 with a different bolt circle diameter for the rim. So before ordering confirm the bolt circle diameter. See post 107 !!!!!!!!

[cwl1979]

Yeah i would say the same thing, my 96 still has 24.5 Budds( stud pilot) on it. So it was weird looking at your pictures and seeing hub pilots with 315's.

One day ill swap it over to hub pilots wheels.

[whited44]

Are we talking the front or drive/tag wheels?

What size tire are you running on the front? The pic looks like 315s. That will determine the wheel width you need.

Also, it’s hard to tell with the lug nut covers on if the wheel is hub centered or stud centered. Those are two different wheels. The pic of the front looks like stud centered.

Here is why this may need a little more research before you order a rim. I think that coach would have come from the factory with 24.5  stud centered rims. But what is showing on the front is a 22.5 hub centered rim with 315 tires. The wheel studs had to be replaced to go from stud centered to hub centered.

But who knows? No two Newells are alike. Steve Magown had a 97 with a different bolt circle diameter for the rim. So before ordering confirm the bolt circle diameter.  See post 107 !!!!!!!!

I’m talking about the fronts.  Newell said that it came with the 22.5” with the 10 holes. It has 315’s on it. I think these are hub centered wheels because of how big the center cap is.

[cwl1979]

You can tell in your third picture they are hub pilot wheels. You can see the shoulder on the nut under the covers. The question that needs to be answered is are they 8.25 or 9 wide. 315 tires can be on either.

[smagown]

My wheels for the front 365's took a circuitous path. Richard got them for his '96 with the straight front axle, wouldn't fit. I bought the wheeels from him, bought the tires, had them mounted and the bolt pattern was wrong, after Creslie did some research, I think it was coach 455, had come in for the 365 upgrade and they discovered they used a Dana front end with the odd pattern and thought they were only on 450-455, we found out they were on up to 458. I was bummed but my buddy put them on his '01 Prevost H3, and a year later I bought his rig and got use my wheels and tires after all.

[johnkosir]

712 also has a different bolt pattern if I want to put 365's on I have to change hubs and some body work 5 years ago Newell said 17-20 thousand